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Evan Gadol's avatar

One, I think I agree that the Saadia Gaon's nusach resolves this neatly as it focuses on the (seeming) purpose of the bracha and sidesteps the problem completely. I will need to discuss this with my eventual wife (wherever she is) and the rav I will have officiate at my wedding, but my inclination is to use the Saadia Gaon's nusach now.

Two, I would like to offer an alternative interpretation of b'tzelem elohim that illuminates what it was we were actually made in the likeness of - you acknowledge that elohim can also refer to divine beings like angels which is a classical understanding (see Iyov, and other commentary on the "we" vs "I" questions in Bereshit) but I have a bit of a simpler solution based on the ancient linguistics of Semitic languages and the meaning of el/elohim. Much as "Ba'al" means master, I think that "El" better translates as ruler - specifically, someone who has the ability and authority to exercise power. Being made b'tzelem elohim is a theological statement regarding man as an autonomous being with free will, unlike all the animals of the earth that are acting out their programming, and it is a repudiation of the larger pagan world's idea of determined destiny and immutable fate.

I have discussed this idea with David R. extensively and actually have an essay I'll be publishing next week on this idea specifically in relation to our patriarch, Ya'akov; I'll be eager for your thoughts on it.

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Nahum's avatar

No need for snideness. Can't say I'm following this convo anymore. I asked you to clarify if you think the text should be updated to conform with non hagshamah conceptions even if the authors were ok with it. You responded in the affirmative. I suppose I'm glad to hear that you're not for that step. But then I'm confused. If you're not for changing the text if the authors were ok with it then you should be fine with the text as is—hagshamah implication notwithstanding.

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