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First of all, I want to say I really enjoy your Chumash articles. I am very much drawn by pshat, especially reading Chumash in the context of the rest of Tanach, and I have discovered (or was מחדש) many fascinating things through this method. Unfortunately most of my limud of Chumash is on Shabbos, so I almost never write them down. But here is one example https://irrationalistmodoxism.substack.com/p/yehudahs-blessing-of-wine-and-milk I find that your articles are very much up my alley.

However, I want to make a statement from a yeshivish perspective about the more "maskilish" commentators such as Ibn Caspi and Shadal. I will especially focus on Ibn Caspi since he seems to be a much worse offender. In our minds (I am speaking of the "yeshivishe velt") the reason why we accept commentators such as Rashi, the Ramban, and even the Ibn Ezra is because they are part of our Mesorah. And when I say "accept", I mean treat as authoritative. Like, the fact that they said something has more weight than the mere fact that they are scholars. After all, there are many Christian scholars who have written on Tanach, yet their words have no authority with us. So therefore, when we come to somebody like Ibn Caspi, who as far as I know, is not recognized as authoritative by any other Rishonim (and looking at his peirush which seems full of ליצנות, it's easy to see why), he is not part of our Mesorah, and we don't recognize him as authoritative either. That doesn't mean he's not a scholar, or that there's nothing to learn from him. Perhaps there is, just like there might be what to learn from Christian scholars on an occasional basis. But just like the Christian scholars, his lack of authority severely limits his utility. If we would quote the Ibn Kaspi to explain something, it would no better than being מחדש that explanation on our own. His words are not מעלה or מוריד.

I just wanted to articulate the yeshivishe perspective in writing, you may have known this already. It is not intended in any way as a criticism of your quoting these scholars. חזק ואמץ in your הרבצת התורה!

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Jessie Fischbein's avatar

>>His commentary often includes what we might describe as “hot takes,” delivered in a tone that could be called “snarky.” :D

>> “As God lives, [I swear that] I am not troubled by this verse.”

great lines

Though honestly I am surprised by the take "Dovid did worse things sexually and was moshiach Hashem anyway." 1) Dovid did teshuva very publicly or he undoubtedly would *not* have been moshiach Hashem. 2) It would seem like our current idea of "kedusha" is...too strict according to Ibn Kaspi? Like sure, all things being equal a person would control themselves sexually. But "don't get all bent out of shape" if our patriarchs had a kiss or a cuddle before marriage. Is that the standard to which we are holding the Patriarchs? I would say for the klal, ok. But I kind of had higher standards for Yaakov Avinu. Then again, before Matan Torah, Yehuda went to a prostitute after his wife died. That is not criticized but the midrash does say a malach pushed him (ie all things being equal, a role model like that is held to a higher standard, at least according to that midrash).

I really like your point that there is a range of approaches. And your comments about the interplay between culture, values, and interpretation here.

This makes me wish I did put a chapter on this in my book! But I think you did a better job than I would have. Great reading!

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